Thursday, October 23, 2008

More Reasons to Vote Against Obama: Foreign Policy

Robert McFarlane, National Security Adviser to Ronald Reagan: "In 2006, when conditions on the ground (in Iraq) were trending downward and a decision was required either to continue the struggle or to cut our losses, Barack Obama stated that the proposed deployment of more forces, the 'surge,' was doomed to failure and instead called for a phased withdrawal of all forces within a defined period. In short, Senator Obama was willing to lose. It was an astonishing display of ignorance to be so cavalier about defeat, almost as if losing a war was tantamount to losing a set of tennis -- something without lasting consequence."

Obama: "I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning; and as president, I will end it. Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems."



Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

The Iraq War has resulted in the deaths of thousands of US soldiers and over 1 million Iraqis.

That is not a war that Christians should support. It was never a just war. Evangelicals should be ashamed for their support of it.

Douglas Groothuis, Ph.D. said...

To the person not willing to self-identify.

This is irrelevant to Obama. The war has been fought. Who will now secure the peace? Not O.

a said...

"This is irrelevant to Obama."

Why the harsh tone Doug? They made a decent point and the analogy is obvious: would McCain advocate the Bush doctrine.

I'm not a BHO supporter, but it doesn't mean that I won't engage in self-reflection.

The policies that those of us from fundamentalist traditions (myself and my demonination) supported resulted in genocide.

While I'm sure that your conscience isn't as soft as mine and that God has given you the freedom in Christ to make different decisions, I feel like a silent Nazi supporter that was led around by the promise of abortion and an anti-gay agenda, when nothing has or will be changed. Just because other people don't have the freedom in Christ to make the same political decision doesn't mean that you should belittle their moral problem with voting for the GOP. To pressure them to sin would be a greivious offense to God.

I will write in Ron Paul, and I am currently living in Florida through December. Florida is a swing state.

Jeremy said...

One salient oversight:

Merely citing the number of casualties isn't enough to justify your claim that the Iraq war was not a just war that ought to have been supported by Christians (I suppose Evangelical or otherwise).

Think about how many people died in single battles in wars past, e.g., Antetum or D-Day, regardless of whether they were military or civilian. Nevertheless, it seems that both the Civil War and WWII were extremely justified in order to bring about and end to evil. Numbers don't prove a thing; you'll need premises that talk about oughtness.

And ditto to everything Doug said.

Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight) said...

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steve said...

Hi Doug,

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BJS said...

from James Thames:

"Just because other people have the freedom in Christ to not make the same political decision doesn't mean that you should belittle their moral problem with voting for the GOP. To pressure them to sin would be a greivious offense to God."

This is something very serious to consider. Thank you James.

It is compelling. And serves as a good, stern warning to many. Should we mock, disdain, make-fun-of, and belittle each other, or, for that matter, the candidates? Such is not the way of the Christ-follower.