Thursday, September 25, 2008

The Personhood Amendment

Ballot Measure #48. would amend the Colorado Constitution to say that personhood begins at conception. It is sponsored by Colorado for Equal Rights. This is the first time this kind of ballot measure has made it on to the ballot in the United States. I am listed on their web page as a supporter of this measure. Please visit their web page, pray for their work, and contribute time and money to this just cause.

4 comments:

  1. This bill has the same ring as the
    ill-fated "equal rights amendment" from
    an earlier era. Essentially we are
    talking about an inappropriate modification of the Colorado State
    constitution.

    First of all, the "time of conception"
    is not a time that can be determined in
    most cases.

    Second, according to numerous medical
    sources, a large (more than 30%) of
    pregnancies never make it to term on
    the average. For women who have
    difficulty conceiving, this is an
    even higher percentage, approaching
    100% for some women. So, you are
    proposing to pass a law that would
    tell all of those women that they
    have been killing "persons"?
    Biologically speaking, these "persons"
    apparently are rather expendable, so
    much so that far more of these "persons"
    are killed by women trying to get
    pregnant, than by those who are getting
    abortions.

    Third, aside from that, it appears to be
    something that will open a legal can of
    worms. Because "personhood" is not
    as contained a concept as the
    anti-abortion/anti-birth control
    crowd would like it to be, they may
    not get what they want. Look up
    "personhood" and you will find
    for example, that
    corporations are "persons" under
    the law.

    The broadness of language of
    the "personhood ammendment" provides
    potential for attacks on all forms
    of parental rights with regards to
    children, as well as individual
    rights with regard to a woman's
    control over her body.

    However, it is likely that such a
    law also could be ruled as "superfluous"
    recognizing nothing that isn't already
    recognized by the rest of our body
    of law. Ultimately being the same sort
    of unnecessary law, just like the
    "Equal Rights Amendment".

    The most reasonable position is to
    vote "no" on this ill-conceived proposed
    amendment.

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  2. Prayer is certainly needed! Remember Amendment 2 several years ago? It was approved by the voters, but the state supreme court struck it down.

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  3. John:

    1. This is irrelevant. The amendment applies to when conception is knowable--as when someone wants to have an abortion.

    2. This is irrelevant. Natural miscarriages have nothing to do with the amendment, since the woman does nothing to induce them. Inducing a miscarriage is called an abortion. If someone dies of a stroke, no murder charges are filed.

    3. It may be a legal can of worms. So be it. The statement, "Personhood begins at conception" is true and morally pertinent to the law.

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  4. Dr. Groothuis wrote
    1. This is irrelevant. The amendment applies to when conception is knowable--as when someone wants to have an abortion.


    That's not what the bill says.
    The problem with this
    bill is that anything, absolutely
    anything that might interfere with
    that little "person" floating down
    the woman's fallopian tube, suddenly
    becomes an issue, whether we are
    talking about what the woman is
    consuming, what the doctor is
    prescribing, or what might be in
    the environment.



    Dr. Groothuis:

    2. This is irrelevant. Natural miscarriages have nothing to do with the amendment, since the woman does nothing to induce them. Inducing a miscarriage is called an abortion. If someone dies of a stroke, no murder charges are filed.


    If the attempt to get pregnant is
    deliberate, then any miscarriage that
    are
    caused by the attempt to get pregnant
    are the result of a deliberate decision. Unless
    there is an explicit dispensation for
    such "natural" events, then we
    are back to 1). Anything, absolutely
    anything that could interfere with
    that little "person" is an issue.

    If you know in advance that a regular
    person has a 30-80% chance of dying
    under certain conditions
    and you put them in a position that
    does, indeed, cause their death, then
    you may be legally liable, even if they
    signed a release.


    3. It may be a legal can of worms. So be it. The statement, "Personhood begins at conception" is true and morally pertinent to the law.


    "Personhood" as defined by the law
    may or may not begin at conception.
    Indeed, it may be perfectly moral to
    terminate these "persons" just as it
    is perfectly moral for parents with
    reservations about certain medical
    procedures to deny those procedures
    to their children for religious
    reasons.

    The fact that you are not shocked and
    outraged by the high "natural" mortality
    says that even your moral sense tells
    you that it isn't that big a deal for
    an early-term pregnancy to end.

    This is a bad ammendment, and all
    right-thinking people should vote against it.

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